ranks Edit

during one of the trailers you can get a peek at some of the rank/class types, I will let you know when I find the trailer and the exact moments on it where you can get a peek at the names. ralok (talk) 19:39, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Why do you have thralls and knights as speculation? those are actually the ranks that I saw in one of the vidocs... it technically isnt speculation, but it is pre-release information so... it might be subject to change. On moment the vidoc is "out here in the wild" and the knight class is confirmed at 03:34 (roughly) and the thrall (and phogoth) at 03:37 ralok (talk) 14:07, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
Well everything is subject to change since it's ALL pre-release information. "Thrall" and "Knight" are words that we have literally seen only in a couple of blurry freeze-frames in one single video. Though we can clearly draw some solid conclusions for ourselves, we need official confirmation from Bungie before we can remove the conjecture tags. If you look at the Fallen, for example, Bungie has created an entire web page outlining their class structure and describing the classes. We simply don't have that level of information yet for the Hive. We will someday :-) Foman123 (talk) 19:23, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
Seeing these titles/ranks in an official bungie-released image or video is the same thing as confirmation... at least for the time-being. If the information is changed post-release then it is changed, and hte original pre-release names become behind the scenes information. Its not conjecture, its what we have been provided. ralok (talk) 23:30, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, you're right, which is why pages have been created and these titles are now appearing in articles. What we don't know for certain, however, is what these "titles" pertain to, whether they're ranks, classes, or something entirely different. Until Bungie speaks to what a "Thrall" or "Knight" is, we're making logical speculation based on the available evidence -- justifiably, of course, but our Manual of Style requires that this kind of speculation needs to be clearly marked as such until we have confirmation. You'll see that we're providing information about Thralls and Knights -- the part that's conjecture/speculation is that these are titles/classes.  We can remove the tags as soon as we've got something more solid :-) Foman123 (talk) 03:04, October 14, 2013 (UTC)

Anyways, I am not sure the image you have for a knight is the same creature that was labeled a knight in the trailer... gotta go back and look closer, I could swear the "knight" in the vidoc was bulkier. Also please see the phogoth talk page when you have time. ralok (talk) 03:44, October 14, 2013 (UTC)